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- From: dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu (David M. Putzolu)
- Subject: rec.guns FAQ Pointer
- Message-ID: <CnurGu.6z5@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Followup-To: rec.guns
- Summary: This posting contains a pointer to the anonymous FTP
- site that contains the rec.guns FAQ, the WWW server for
- the rec.guns FAQ, and a list of the topics covered in
- the files/documents at those sites. Instructions are
- included that describe how those without FTP access
- can use email to get to the files at the rec.guns FTP server
- site.
- Sender: dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu (David Putzolu)
- Reply-To: dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu (FAQ Maintainer)
- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
- Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:29:18 GMT
- Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu,news-answers-request@MIT.Edu
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- Archive-name: rec-guns-FAQ-pointer
- Last-Modified: 1994/4/4
-
- rec.guns FAQ: Introduction
- Administrative Note 1: I am also in the process of converting the FAQ
- itself into a hypertext format suitable for WWW use. Currently, about
- 30% of the FAQ has been converted. If you want to help in this
- conversion, or in adding new documents to the rec.guns FAQ, email me
- at dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu.
-
- What follows is the pointer to the rec.guns FAQ list. Due to its near
- encyclopedic proportions, it was decided that the FAQ would be made
- available via anonymous FTP, and only this small pointer would be posted
- periodically instead. For those of you that do not have FTP access,
- instructions as to how to use email to have parts of the FAQ
- automatically sent to you are included at the end of this posting.
-
-
- *****************************************************************
- * The rec.guns FAQ can be found on the rec.guns FTP server, *
- * flubber.cs.umd.edu (128.8.128.99) in the directory /rec/FAQ *
- *****************************************************************
- * The rec.guns FAQ is also available via WWW at the URL: *
- * http://sal.cs.uiuc.edu/rec.guns/ *
- * Also found here are firearm image, sound, and target archives *
- *****************************************************************
-
- In order to allow people to download parts of the FAQ at the granularity
- of single articles, each article appears in a separate file on the FTP
- server mentioned above. The filename of each article is made up of the
- section in the FAQ where it is found, followed by a period and the suffix
- ".txt" Thus, the article in the section
-
- III. Firearm Information by Type
-
- C. SEMI-AUTOMATIC PISTOLS
-
- 2. Models and Manufacturers
-
- a. 1911A1 - Where to get Information on Gunsmithing
-
- would be found in the file /rec/FAQ/IIIC2a.txt Hopefully this will please
- the MS-DOS people, as well as make filenames faster to type. It doesn't
- make things any more intuitive, but I have a feeling the old system
- wasn't that great either. Note that the outline of all of the subjects
- covered can be found in the file FAQ1 in the same directory.
-
- There is still a ton of stuff missing from this FAQ. If you feel
- comfortable writing about one of the missing topics, please email me!
-
- David M. Putzolu - dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu - My opinions
-
-
- T
-
- rec.guns FAQ: Recent Changes
- I. INTRODUCTION
-
- A. Changes Since Last Posting
-
- by David Putzolu
-
- The REC.GUNS FAQ pointer was last posted on March 3, 1994.
-
- The following list shows a change code followed by a topic area. The key
- to these codes is:
-
- CCC = Change to the topic.
-
- +++ = Topic has been inserted or filled in.
-
- --- = Topic has been deleted.
-
-
- Changes since last posting:
-
- I. Introduction
-
- II. Laws
-
- E. Relevant Literature
-
- CCC 1. Judicious Use of Deadly Force - Video Review (3/22/94)
- (Patrick Casey has expertly updated this to HTML - other FAQ
- contributors, take note!)
-
- III. Firearm Information by Type
-
- C. Semi-Automatic Pistols
-
- 2. Models and Manufacturers
-
- c. Glock
-
- +++ 1. Accessories - Aro-Tek extended slide release review
- (3/15/94) (Frank Lindquist has given a positive review of this Aro-Tek
- accessory.)
-
- h. Taurus
-
- +++ 1. Taurus PT-22 (3/19/94) (Julian Macassey has reviewed
- this .22 calibre Beretta knockoff nicely)
-
- D. Rifles
-
- 2. Models and Manufacturers
-
- a. AR-15
-
- +++ 2. Further AR-15 Building Hints (3/20/94) (Steve Faber
- has given lots of useful information for AR-15 builders)
-
- IV. Comparative Firearm Information
-
- V. Defensive Use of Firearms
-
- B. Literature
-
- CCC 2. Shoot To Live - Video Review (3/22/94) (Patrick Casey
- has updated this concise review of the Ayoob Video to hyperText
- format)
-
- VI. Hunting Issues
-
- VII.Reloading Information
-
- C. Bullet Manufacturer Information
-
- 1. Hornady
-
- +++ a. Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading, 3rd. Ed.
- (3/21/94) (David Munroe has provided us with a thorough review of this
- reloading manual.)
-
- 2. Nosler
-
- +++ a. Nosler Reloading Manual, Number Three (3/21/94) (David
- Munroe has provided us with a thorough review of this reloading
- manual.)
-
- 3. Sierra
-
- +++ a. Sierra Handgun Reloading Manual (3/21/94) (David
- Munroe has provided us with a thorough review of this reloading
- manual.)
-
- 4. Speer
-
- +++ a. Speer Reloading Manual, Number 11 (3/21/94) (David
- Munroe has provided us witha thorough review of this reloading
- manual.)
-
- D. Powder Manufacturer Information
-
- 1. Hodgdon
-
- +++ a. Hodgdon Data Manual No. 25 (3/21/94) (David Munroe
- has provided us with a thorough review of this reloading manual.)
-
- E. Pistol/Rifle Reloading Equipment Manufacturer Information
-
- 4. Lyman
-
- +++ a. Lyman Reloading Handbook, 46th Edition (3/21/94)
- (David Munroe has provided us with a thorough review of this reloading
- manual.)
-
- 5. RCBS
-
- +++ a. Rock Chucker Master Reloading Kit Review (3/21/94)
- (Joe Wood has decided that this is an excellent deal for a beginning
- reloader)
-
- H. Miscellaneous
-
- +++ 6. Can I Neck Size Belted Brass to Increase Case Life?
- (4/3/94) (Bart Bobbitt explains why people often find belted brass
- case life to be rather short)
-
- VIII. Techniques
-
- IX. Competetive Information
-
- X. Miscellaneous
-
- XI. Contact Information
-
- B. Merchandise
-
- +++ 1. Bullet Proof Vest Companies (4/3/94) (Julius Chang has
- compiled a comprehensive list of companies that manufacture and sell
- this protective equipment.)
-
- CCC F. People to Contact if You are Curious About Firearms
- (3/29/94) (Kees Huyser has made this document more user friendly. An
- excellent resource for people interested in trying out shooting)
-
- XII.Accuracy
-
- B. Rifle
-
- +++ 2. Why is Belted Brass Less Accurate? (4/3/94) (Bart
- Bobbitt explains the intricacies and failings of belted brass)
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: Main Outline
- OUTLINE FOR THE REC.GUNS FAQ ORGANIZATION
-
- by David M. Putzolu (dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu)
-
- Below is a list of all of the topics that the rec.guns FAQ. Because the
- FAQ has grown quite large, it was decided that a pointer to where the FAQ
- might be obtained via ftp would be posted instead. For people who do not
- have ftp access, a brief instructional guide on how to use email to
- automatically have FAQ articles sent to you appears at the end of this
- posting.
-
- Note that this is simply the outline for the FAQ. The FAQ documents
- themselves can be found at the rec.guns FAQ FTP site.
-
- To find out the names of the files in which each part of the FAQ is
- stored in, use one of the following:
-
- if viewing this article via news, see the beginning of this posting
-
- if you see this as a file, get the file faqIntro.txt located at the
- FTP site flubber.cs.umd.edu in /rec/FAQ
-
- if viewing this as a hypertext file, click here
-
- Subject Outline:
-
- I. Introduction
-
- II. Laws
-
- III. Firearm Information by Type
-
- IV. Comparative Firearm Information
-
- V. Defensive Use of Firearms
-
- VI. Hunting Issues
-
- VII. Reloading Information
-
- VIII. Techniques
-
- IX. Competitive Information
-
- X. Miscellaneous
-
- XI. Contact Information
-
- XII. Accuracy
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: I. Introduction
- I. Introduction
-
- A. Changes since last posting
-
- B. FAQ Organization, etc.
-
- C. Legal Disclaimer
-
- D. Basic Gun Safety
-
- E. Terminology & Acronyms
-
- F. The most common FAQ on rec.guns: I am thinking of buying a
- gun...
-
- G. Why Should I Join the NRA?
-
- H. I Don't Have FTP capability - can I use Email to get FAQ
- Articles?
-
- I. A Handgun Primer For Novices
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: II. Laws
- II. Laws
-
- A. Contact info for ILA & other services
-
- B. Country Laws
-
- C. State Laws
-
- 1. Concealed Carry Laws by State
-
- 2. Interstate Transportation of Personally-Owned Firearms
-
- D. Judicious Use of Deadly Force (Article Not Present)
-
- E. Relevant Literature
-
- 1. Judicious Use of Deadly Force - Video Review
-
- F. Firearms and Airlines
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: III. Firearm Information by Type
- III. Firearm Information by Type
-
- A. Literature (Article Not Present)
-
- B. Revolvers
-
- 1. Commonly Available Cartridges
-
- 2. Models and Manufacturers
-
- a. Smith & Wesson
-
- 3. "What to Look for in Buying a Revolver"
-
- C. Semi-Automatic Pistols
-
- 1. Commonly Available Cartridges
-
- 2. Models and Manufacturers
-
- a. 1911A1 - Where to get Information on Gunsmithing
-
- b. Browning High Power
-
- c. Glock
-
- 1. Accessories - Aro-Tek extended slide release review
-
- 2. Pistols
-
- d. Haemmerli
-
- e. Heckler and Koch USP
-
- f. Sig Sauer - Changing Triggers
-
- g. Smith & Wesson
-
- h. Taurus
-
- 1. Taurus PT-22
-
- 2. Taurus 99AF
-
- D. Rifles
-
- 1. Commonly Available Cartridges
-
- a. An Examination of Norinco 7.62*39 Corrosiveness
-
- 2. Models & Manufacturers
-
- a. AR-15
-
- 1. How to Build an AR-15
-
- 2. Further AR-15 Building Hints
-
- b. HK
-
- 3. Miscellaneous
-
- a. What is Jeff Cooper's Scout Rifle?
-
- E. Shotguns
-
- 1. Shotshells and Loads
-
- a. Shot Sizes
-
- b. Load weights, shotsize, and Dram equivalents
-
- c. High brass, low brass, and hull length (Article Not Present)
-
- d. Buffered Loads
-
- e. What's a "gauge," anyway?
-
- f. Different shotgun shell lengths - what's the deal?
-
- 2. Barrels and Chokes
-
- a. VR barrels (Article Not Present)
-
- b. Rifled vs. smoothbore (Article Not Present)
-
- c. Chokes
-
- d. Barrel length (Article Not Present)
-
- e. O/U vs. S/S
-
- 3. Models & Manufacturers
-
- a. Benelli
-
- 4. Miscellaneous
-
- a. Shotgun Fit Parameters
-
- b. The Difference between Trap, Skeet, and Sporting Clays
-
- c. Reducing Recoil
-
- F. Black Powder Firearms (Article Not Present)
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: IV. Comparative Firearm Information
- IV. Comparative Firearm Information
-
- A. Literature (Article Not Present)
-
- B. Double Action v. Single Action v. Safe Action v. Squeeze
- Cocker
-
- C. Glock v. Sig Sauer
-
- 1. The Glock's Case (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. Glock Rebuttal (Article Not Present)
-
- 3. The Sig Sauer's Case
-
- 4. Sig Sauer Rebuttal (Article Not Present)
-
- D. Reliability: Semi-Automatic Pistols v. Revolvers (Article Not
- Present)
-
- E. Accuracy: Bolt Action Rifles v. Semi-Automatic Rifles (Article
- Not Present)
-
- F. Bullet Velocity & Weight as related to effectiveness
-
- 1. The Facklerite's Case (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. Fackler Rebuttal (Article Not Present)
-
- 3. The Marshall-Sanow Case (Article Not Present)
-
- 4. Marshall-Sanow Rebuttal (Article Not Present)
-
- G. Calibre Issues
-
- 1. The .45 ACP's case (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. .45 ACP Rebuttal (Article Not Present)
-
- 3. The 9mm Parabellum's case (Article Not Present)
-
- 4. 9mm Parabellum Rebuttal (Article Not Present)
-
- 5. Other calibres and their suitability to purpose (Article Not
- Present)
-
- 6. Calibre Interchangeability
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: V. Defensive Use of Firearms
- V. Defensive Use of Firearms
-
- A. Legal Disclaimer
-
- B. Reviews of Literature and Other Relevant Information
-
- 1. John Farnam's Shotgun Course - A Review
-
- 2. Shoot To Live - Video Review
-
- 3. Some Reviews by Seth Eliott
-
- C. Home Defense
-
- D. Out-of-Home Defense
-
- E. I want a pistol for defensive use. Which one should I get?
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: VI. Hunting Issues
- VI. Hunting Issues
-
- A. Calibre Issues
-
- 1. Is .223 ok for hunting? (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. Is 9mm/7.62*39/.357/.45ACP/etc. good for bears?
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: VII. Reloading Information
- VII. Reloading Information
-
- A. Introduction to Handloading
-
- 1. Pistol and Rifle Handloading: "My Adventures in Reloading"
-
- 2. Shotgun Handloading (Article Not Present)
-
- B. Progressive v. Standard Reloaders
-
- 1. Accuracy Issues (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. Price / Expandability (Article Not Present)
-
- 3. Rate of Production (Article Not Present)
-
- C. Bullet Manufacturer Information
-
- 1. Hornady Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading, 3rd
- Ed.
-
- 2. Nosler
-
- Nosler Reloading Manual, Number Three
-
- 3. Sierra
-
- Sierra Handgun Reloading Manual
-
- 4. Speer
-
- Speer Reloading Manual, Number 11
-
- D. Powder Manufacturer Information (Article Not Present)
-
- 1. Hodgdon
-
- a. Hodgdon Data Manual No. 25
-
- E. Pistol/Rifle Reloading Equipment Manufacturer Information
-
- 1. Dillon (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. Hornady (Pacific) (Article Not Present)
-
- 3. Lee (Article Not Present)
-
- 4. Lyman
-
- a. Lyman Reloading Handbook, 46th Edition
-
- 5. RCBS
-
- a. Rock Chucker Master Reloading Kit Review
-
- F. Shotgun Reloading Equipment Manufacturer Information
-
- 1. Hornady, MEC, and Posness Warren
-
- G. Custom Loads
-
- 1. Legal Disclaimer (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. Pistol (Article Not Present)
-
- 3. Rifle (Article Not Present)
-
- 4. Shotgun (Article Not Present)
-
- H. Miscellaneous
-
- 1. "A Report on the Dedicated Systems Electronic Scale and and
- Powder Dribbler System"
-
- 2. "Some Words on Adjusting Dies"
-
- 3. What is the Benefit of Nickel Plating Brass?
-
- 4. Alternative Methods of Cleaning Brass
-
- 5. Safe Storage of Powder and Primers
-
- 6. Can I Neck Size Belted Brass to Increase Case Life?
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: VIII. Techniques
- VIII. Techniques
-
- A. Pistol Techniques
-
- 1. Carry Techniques (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. Cleaning
-
- a. Semi-automatics
-
- b. Revolvers
-
- 3. Presentation (Article Not Present)
-
- B. Rifle Techniques
-
- 1. Carry Techniques (Article Not Present)
-
- 2. Cleaning (Article Not Present)
-
- 3. Presentation (Article Not Present)
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: IX. Competetive Information
- IX. Competitive Information
-
- A. List of Olympic Shooting Events
-
- B. IPSC Information
-
- 1. Basic Introduction to IPSC
-
- 2. In Depth IPSC Information (long)
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: X. Miscellaneous
- X. Miscellaneous
-
- A. DCM Summary - "Uncle Sam Sells Garand Rifles to Civilians"
-
- B. Bill Ruger Consumer Debate Summary
-
- C. Lubricants
-
- 1. Information about commerically available lubricants.
-
- a. Prolix
-
- 2. The Case Against Petroleum Based Lubricants
-
- D. Solvents
-
- 1. Don't Mix Shooter's Choice & Hoppe's!
-
- 2. Information about commercially available solvents.
-
- 3. Homebrew Recipies
-
- a. Ed's Red
-
- E. Female-Specific Issues Relating to Firearms
-
- F. The Points System of GCA'68
-
- G. FFL Information
-
- 1. Rob's Quick Guide to Getting a Federal Firearms License
- (FFL)
-
- 2. The Curios and Relics FFL
-
- H. What about Kids and Guns?
-
- I. Literature List
-
- 1. Book Reviews by Henry Schaffer
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: XI. Contact Information
- XI. Contact Information
-
- A. Gun Rights Organizations
-
- 1. NRA
-
- 2. ILA
-
- 3. Other Gun Rights Organizations
-
- B. Merchandise
-
- 1. Bullet Proof Vest Companies
-
- 2. Mail Order Gun Supplies
-
- C. Internet Firearms FTP Sites
-
- D. Firearms Schools
-
- E. Literature Reviews Available at flubber.cs.umd.edu
-
- F. People To Contact if You are Curious About Firearms
- rec.guns FAQ: XII. Accuracy
- XII. Accuracy
-
- A. Pistol
-
- 1. General Accuracy Tips
-
- B. Rifle
-
- 1. Why Should I Bed My Rifle?
-
- 2. Why is Belted Brass Less Accurate?
-
-
- I. INTRODUCTION
-
- B. FAQ Organization, etc.
-
- by David Putzolu (dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu)
-
- This is the FAQ for rec.guns. It is organized in a hierarchical
- outline form with a list of the topics at the beginning. This FAQ is a
- compilation of the writings by various of the people in the rec.guns
- forum. If you have any questions that the FAQ does not answer, please
- post a message to rec.guns and you will find lots of helpful, friendly
- people willing to reply. If you feel that the FAQ contains incorrect
- FACTUAL information, (example: the number of cartridges a Beretta 92FS
- standard magazine contains) please contact the maintainer, David
- Putzolu, at dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu. Include the section that the error
- is in as well as the context of the error. If you disagree with some of
- the arguments in regards to areas that are a matter of opinion (example:
- is a 9mm or .45 better for defensive use?) or find the arguments to be
- incomplete, you must provide a complete re-write of the area in question,
- which, in any case, may or may not be included, depending on the
- judgement of the maintainer and possibly other self-important
- individuals. Sorry it has to be done this way, but I really don't have
- the time to answer every nit that someone has to pick with the FAQ. Your
- other option, of course, is to post an article on rec.guns on the
- subject, and if you find sufficient support to change the FAQ then it
- will be changed.
-
-
- rec.guns FAQ: I.C. Legal Disclaimer
- I. INTRODUCTION
-
- C. Legal Disclaimer
-
- by David Putzolu (dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu)
-
- The contents of this FAQ and the entire FAQ is simply a compendium of the
- writings of many of the knowledgable people on the rec.guns forum. No
- part of this FAQ should be viewed as legal advice. The reader must take
- full and complete responsibility for the laws regarding firearms in his
- jurisdiction as well as proper safety precautions involving every facet
- of firearms and related components. Any and all of this FAQ may contain
- errors, and it is the responsibility of the reader to check with his
- local law enforcement authorities as to the laws which dictate how, when,
- why, and where he may use firearms in any situation.
-
- Note that each article in this FAQ is the intellectual property of its
- author, who retains the copyright to it. Permission is explicitly given
- to distribute this FAQ in its entirety via the Internet and other
- computer networks. Permission is explicitly denied to publish this FAQ in
- any other medium, including but not limited to CD-ROM, books, and
- magazines. In order to gain permission to reproduce any part of this FAQ
- in such a medium the person/organization wishing to publish said part of
- it must get the individual permission of each and every author whose
- writings he wishes to publish.
-
-
- I. INTRODUCTION
-
- D. Basic Gun Safety
-
- by Christian J. van den Branden Lambrecht (vdb@ltssg3.epfl.ch)
-
- Well I guess everybody knows all this perfectly but it is always good to
- review these things even if it looks like the first pages of every gun
- instruction manual. Please remember that nothing here should be seen as
- legal advice. Everything is disclaimed.
-
- Before buying or even handling a gun, one has to realize that it is
- something different than any other object in the sense that a gun can
- cause serious injury or death. Handling a gun makes you responsible for
- what happens with it at that time. If you own a gun, you are undertaking
- full responsibility for safety and security at all times. This means that
- you have to ensure that you or other people using your gun with your
- consent handle it properly. You have to make sure that nobody can steal
- or use your firearm without your consent.
-
- The actual rules are:
-
- Always treat a gun as if it were loaded until you visually check it out.
-
- Never point your firearm in any direction you do not intend to shoot. In
- particular, never point your gun in the direction of other people.
-
- Always have your gun pointed in a safe direction.
-
- Before handling a firearm, understand how it works.
-
- Do not assume that a gun is secure, i.e. some guns have excellent
- security systems to prevent accidental firing (e.g. when dropped), others
- don't.
-
- Do not put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot.
-
- Keep your firearm unloaded when you are not using it.
-
- Never pass your firearm to anybody until you have checked that it is
- unloaded.
-
- If you have to carry your gun loaded, always point it in a safe direction
- (e.g. the ground). Never carry your gun with the hammer cocked.
-
- You should store your firearm and ammunition in separate locked places.
- Pay particular attention that no child has access to the gun.
-
- Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
-
- If you own a gun for home defense, most of these safety rules will be
- violated. However in some countries, home defense can be important. You
- will then probably store your gun loaded in a place that you can quickly
- reach if you feel you are threatened. In this case, be really sure that
- it is unaccessible to children. Buy then the safest possible gun for
- this purpose.
-
- When choosing a handgun for home defense, revelvers are a good choice
- because they are much safer than semi auto pistols. If you are not very
- familiar with handguns or do not practice a lot, you should go for a
- revolver. Their drawback is lower capacity. Among semi autos, Glock are
- good defense guns due to their safety mechanism, making them much safer
- than any other semi auto, and their high capacity.
-
- [Maintainer: Note that there is a more comprehensive section in V.
- Defensive uses of firearms that can be found later in the rec.guns
- FAQ. Furthermore, a good overview of purchasing a handgun can be found in
- the article 'I.I. A Handgun Primer for Novices' as well as in the
- article 'V.E. I Want a Pistol for Defensive Use - Which One Should I
- Get?']
-
-
- I. INTRODUCTION
-
- F. The most common FAQ on rec.guns: I am thinking of buying a gun... what
- should I buy/do?
-
- by the Moderator of Rec.Guns (magnum@cs.umd.edu)
-
- You will get much advice from others on the net who read your post. But
- what seems to be the best advice we can give you, in my opinion, is to
- get enough info so you can make an informed choice yourself. This is not
- only a consumer issue, but also a safety issue. Before you buy, I
- strongly encourage you to take a basic firearms safety class, such as the
- NRA Personal Protection course. I suggest the NRA class in particular
- because it is generally of very high quality, at comparatively low cost
- (e.g., my wife and I, who are both certified NRA instructors, offer this
- at our cost of materials); many classes offered commercially, on the
- other hand, offer far less comprehensive a syllabus, and charge much
- more. The NRA class not only covers the basics of operation in a
- firearm, but safety issues in use, storage, transportation and cleaning.
- We also bring in both a lawyer and an officer to discuss both legal and
- practical issues related to use of a firearm in self defense. Its a
- great way to get a lot of questions answered!
-
- In general, we encourage people to take this course *before* purchasing a
- firearm, since it can help you make up your mind about even *whether* to
- purchase. But also, by being more informed about use and operation, you
- can't help but be a better consumer when you go shop. Many people find
- that some firearms felt comfortable in their hand while they were
- absolute novices; but once they learned the proper way to handle the
- firearm, other models or configurations become preferred. Finally, by
- getting hooked up with other knowledgeable shooters (who take or teach
- the class) you can often try out many different types of firearms, to
- help you decide which you like. You wouldn't invest in a car without a
- test drive; don't invest in a firearm you've never driven either. These
- same people can help you find safe and economical places to shoot, that
- is important to help you stay safe and proficient with the firearm if you
- choose to buy.
-
- Please feel free to ask all the followup questions you like; safety is
- that important to us here. Also let us know of your experiences, and
- give us feedback on how to best help the next novice who inquires.
- Welcome aboard -- stay safe --
-
- MODERATOR, rec.guns
-
-
- I. INTRODUCTION
-
- G. Why should I join the NRA?
-
- by Don Baldwin (donb@tamri.com)
-
- Dear fellow shooter,
-
- I asked to write this part of the FAQ because I thought that having a
- liberal Democrat advocate joining the NRA would make a point regarding
- our firearms rights and the preservation thereof: that we're all in this
- together and that we had all better do as much as we can do protect those
- rights, NOW!
-
- The NRA is a very controversial organization in some circles and has
- taken a lot of heat from both sides of the gun debate. Some pro-gunners
- are contemptuous of its compromises, while gun control advocates call it
- inflexible for NOT compromising. Whatever your view, it is a sure thing
- that if the NRA did not exist today, we would now be living under gun
- laws as bad as those in Great Britain and similar countries.
- "Needs-based" licensing, registration, arbitrary bans on whatever is
- called the criminals' "weapon of choice" by those seeking to make easy
- political points at the expense of law-abiding citizens, storage
- requirements that make defense use practically impossible...these are the
- laws we would almost certainly be living under today, if the NRA did not
- exist.
-
- Since becoming active in the area of gun rights, I have read a bit about
- some of the charges made against the "inflexible" NRA...that they oppose
- all gun control laws, that they specifically opposed laws banning "cop
- killer" cartridges. The fact is that the NRA proposed an Instant
- Background check as a better alternative to the Brady Bill's waiting
- period but that proposal was turned down by the gun control advocates,
- despite the fact that a background check could block some sales of guns
- to criminals and waiting periods could not. I have also found out that
- the NRA SUPPORTEDthe law banning "cop killer" bullets, once that law was
- refined to the point where it would not ban ordinary hunting cartridges.
-
- Aside from their political advocacy of gun rights, the NRA also provides
- a number of valuable community services: gun safety materials and
- classes, shooting competitions and criminal justice reform policy
- suggestions that would punish violent criminals HARD.
-
- Today, the media and opportunistic politicians are attacking gun rights
- and the NRA as never before. Please join the NRA today and help make
- sure that they do not get their way!
-
- Don Baldwin
-
-
- I. Introduction
- H. I Don't Have FTP capability - can I use Email to Get FAQ articles?
-
- by Lance ?, Relayed by Dave Aronson
-
-
- If you have e-mail access to the internet, you can get access to any ftp sit
- e
- via e-mail from these two 'ftp via e-mail' servers:
-
- ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
- ftpmail@sunsite.unc.edu
-
-
- Here's a help file (on teetot.acusd.edu, as
- /pub/Beelzebub/FTP_via_Internet_Mail).
-
-
-
- How To
- Receive Documents
- from an
- FTP Archive
- via Internet MAIL
-
- ---===---
-
-
- I have had several requests for documents from the archive at:
-
- etext.archive.umich.edu
-
- from people that DO NOT have anonymous ftp access.
-
- There is a server at:
-
- ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
-
- that can accept "batch" ftp requests from you and then return the documents
- back
- to you via internet mail.
-
-
- The general way to communicate with this server is as follows:
-
- mail ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: <return>
- <ftp command> <return>
- <ftp command> <return>
- <ftp command> <return>
- .
- .
- .
- <ftp command> <return>
- quit <return>
- <exit mail program and send mail>
-
-
- To get a list of commands and some information about this service:
-
- mail ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: <return>
- help <return>
- quit <return>
- <exit mail program and send mail>
-
-
- Let's say that you wanted to get a list of all the files available in the JB
- S
- directory of my archive at etext.archive.umich.edu, do this:
-
- mail ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: <return>
- connect etext.archive.umich.edu <return>
- chdir /pub/Politics/Conspiracy/LWB/JBS <return>
- dir <return>
- quit <return>
- <exit mail program and send mail>
-
-
- Suppose you wanted to get the following files from my archive at
- etext.archive.umich.edu:
-
- LWB/JBS/freedom.from.war
- LWB/JBS/jbs.book.list.01
-
- do the following:
-
- mail ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: <return>
- connect etext.archive.umich.edu <return>
- chdir /pub/Politics/Conspiracy/LWB/JBS <return>
- get freedom.from.war <return>
- get jbs.book.list.01 <return>
- quit <return>
- <exit mail program and send mail>
-
-
- After a while you should get a response similar to this:
-
- From: "ftpmail service on ftp-gw-1.pa.dec.com" <nobody@pa.dec.com>
- To: lwb@cs.utexas.edu
- Subject: your ftpmail request has been received
-
- We processed the following input from your mail message:
-
- connect etext.archive.umich.edu
- chdir /pub/Politics/Conspiracy/LWB/JBS
- get freedom.from.war
- get jbs.book.list.01
- quit
-
- We have entered the following request into our job queue
- as job number 746315939.01678:
-
- connect etext.archive.umich.edu anonymous -
- ftpmail/lwb@cs.utexas.edu
- reply lwb@cs.utexas.edu
- chdir /pub/Politics/Conspiracy/LWB/JBS
- get freedom.from.war ascii
- get jbs.book.list.01 ascii
-
-
- There are 463 jobs ahead of this one in our queue.
-
- You should expect the results to be mailed to you within a day or so.
- We try to drain the request queue every 30 minutes, but sometimes it
- fills up with enough junk that it takes until midnight (Pacific time)
- to clear. Note, however, that since ftpmail sends its files out with
- "Precedence: bulk", they receive low priority at mail relay nodes.
-
- Note that the "reply" or "answer" command in your mailer will not work
- for this message or any other mail you receive from FTPMAIL. To send
- requests to FTPMAIL, send an original mail message, not a reply. As
- shown in the header of this message, complaints should be sent to the
- ftpmail-admin@ftp-gw-1.pa.dec.com address rather than to postmaster,
- since our postmaster is not responsible for fixing ftpmail problems.
-
- There is no way to delete this request, so be sure that it has failed
- before you resubmit it or you will receive multiple copies of anything
- you have requested.
-
- There is no way to ask for only certain parts of a file to be sent. If
- you receive output from ftpmail that seems to be missing some parts, it
- is likely that some mailer between here and there has dropped them. You
- can try your request again, but chances are fairly good that if it is
- dropped once it will be dropped every time.
-
- There is no way to specify that your request should be tried only during
- certain hours of the day. If you need a file from a time-restricted FTP
- server, you probably cannot get it via ftpmail.
-
- Ftpmail was written by Paul Vixie at the DEC Western Research Laboratory
- and at the DEC Network Systems Laboratory, from 1989-1993.
-
- -- Ftpmail Submission Transcript --
- <<< connect etext.archive.umich.edu
- >>> Connect to etext.archive.umich.edu as anonymous with -
- >>> ftpmail/lwb@cs.utexas.edu
- <<< chdir /pub/Politics/Conspiracy/LWB/JBS
- >>> Will chdir to </pub/Politics/Conspiracy/LWB/JBS> before I do anythin
- g
- >>> else
- <<< get freedom.from.war
- >>> get freedom.from.war ascii
- <<< get jbs.book.list.01
- >>> get jbs.book.list.01 ascii
- <<< quit
- >>> Done - rest of message will be ignored
- >>> checking security of host `etext.archive.umich.edu'
- >>> host `etext.archive.umich.edu' has IP addr [141.211.164.18]
- >>> host `etext.archive.umich.edu' is also known as
- >>> `hellcow.css.itd.umich.edu'
- >>> host `etext.archive.umich.edu' is ok
- -- End of Ftpmail Transcript --
-
- etc...
-
- Please refer to the man pages on ftp for more information on ftp commands.
-
- I will, from time-to-time, send/post a list of all files available on
- my section of this archive.
-
- Good Luck,
- Lance
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- End of rec.guns FAQ pointer.
-
- + David M. Putzolu - dputzolu@cs.uiuc.edu - My opinions only +
- + ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ finger for pgp2.3 public key +
- + "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and +
- + bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against +
- + tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson +
-